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AP Reports: Michael Bloomberg Polling in All 50 States; 3rd Party Announcement Could Be Imminent
News Type: Event — Seeded on Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:59 PM EST
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New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has quietly been polling and conducting a highly sophisticated voter analysis in all 50 states as he decides whether to launch an independent presidential bid, associates said Wednesday.
The exhaustive data collection started months ago, and when the review begins shortly, it will provide the data-obsessed billionaire businessman with the information he will use to decide whether to make a third-party run for the White House.
The scope of the research, details of which were revealed to The Associated Press, demonstrates how seriously Bloomberg is considering running for president despite his almost-daily denials that he isn't entering the race.
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{"commentId":1346494,"authorDomain":"politi-c"}
This could be the start of something big...
{"commentId":1346494,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"politi-c"}
- 4 votes
#1 - Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:08 PM EST{"commentId":1346526,"authorDomain":"taniatight"}
WOW! Cool! Great seed, Chris. I suppose it all hinges on who wins the nominations...
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{"commentId":1346584,"authorDomain":"beapluss"}
He's got to get the Independent vote ... and there's a lot of them ... but by now, wouldn't most Independents have made up their mind about voting Republican vs. Democratic?
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{"commentId":1346618,"authorDomain":"frankubelikska"}
wouldn't most Independents have made up their mind about voting Republican vs. Democratic?
No, I don't think so, beapluss. And a lot of independents can't vote in their state primaries. (Iowa and NH are exceptions.) So there will be a lot of people feeling left out come November...
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{"commentId":1346668,"authorDomain":"surendra"}
The Village Voice had an interesting article that said Mayor Mikey wouldn't run against Obama or McCain but the rest were fair game... Kinda made sense to me...
{"commentId":1346668,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"surendra"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1346822,"authorDomain":"alistairbrown"}
Well McCain's probably the 'safest' candidate for the 'pubs in regards to indy voters, seeing as he's fairly central in his voting record. Was a good op-ed on the Guardian earlier about how it seems there's almost two GOP events going on, the Right-wing GOP nomination with Thompson, Huckabee, and Romney, and a more moderate GOP nomination with Giuliani and McCain, although realistically I ca'n't see indy voters choosing Giuliani, and even his own party doesn't seem too keen?
I don't know why he wouldn't consider a run against Obama, the guy [in my humble opinion] is just a shill, much like Cameron over here in the U.K. - people are interested in him, buy into his slickness, then after the honey-moon period will realise he's just the same as any other snake-oil salesman.
I'm hoping Bloomberg will run, a credible, viable, third-party candidate would be one hell of a shake-up.
{"commentId":1346822,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"alistairbrown"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1347201,"authorDomain":"politi-c"}
Giuliani's campaign is a joke. Anyone who lived in NYC under him knows that he's a lunatic.
{"commentId":1347201,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"politi-c"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1347403,"authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}
A few thoughts on this.
1. Bloomberg has not indicated who he would be most likely to run against, and cannot afford to wait. He will have to determine whether any true party favorite is likely to emerge. So far, the signs are very good for a run. He would not have run if Senator Clinton had been clearly likely to win. But given current events, the eventual winner will be the result of attrition that makes his candidacy that much more powerful.
2. Bloomberg knows that this is the best time, bar none. In fact, if Senator Clinton wins, he may ask Obama on to his ticket. And Obama will certainly accept. He is not long for the Democratic Party in any case. If he wins, look for Obama to create his own party if he becomes president within the first year of his term.
3. Bloomberg will win in November if he is credible at the management level. My own candidacy here on Newsvine is a Bloomberg blueprint, in my view. He would reorganize government. And, if he is smart, he will move government throughout the US by work at home connections for most of those currently in Washington, a unique feature of my own platform (as are many of the other concepts).
{"commentId":1347403,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1347723,"authorDomain":"Infohack"}
Obama...is not long for the Democratic Party in any case. If he wins, look for Obama to create his own party if he becomes president within the first year of his term.
Cliff, do you have a reference to lend creedence to this idea or is it just wild speculation on your part?
{"commentId":1347723,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"Infohack"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1347928,"authorDomain":"schwab"}
Ok, the idea of asking Obama to join in on his ticket is pretty interesting but ultimately, I think that any Bloomberg ticket will provide the republicans with an easy win in the same way that Ross Perot handed Clinton an easy win in 1992 and to a lesser extent, Nader to Bush in the past two elections. A three way race would be very interesting but I'm pretty sure he would draw most of his support from more liberal voters who would otherwise be voting democrat, so I guess I oppose him running for President although I do think he might make a very decent president.
Our election system is @!$%#ed...why can't we have runoff elections (or some other, better voting system) like any normal smart country...then I would be thrilled to see Bloomberg run, and it would make Cliff's 2nd point much more likely to happen and appealing.
{"commentId":1347928,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"schwab"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1348244,"authorDomain":"krishna109"}
He's got to get the Independent vote ... and there's a lot of them ... but by now, wouldn't most Independents have made up their mind about voting Republican vs. Democratic?
It seems to me that by now a lot of independents are totally disgusted with all the candidates of both parties! [Actually...there are a fair number of Democrats . . . as well as Republicans . . . that also feel that way]
{"commentId":1348244,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"krishna109"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1346596,"authorDomain":"jjerrypipe"}
I just hope he pulls votes from whatever lunatic Republican wins their party nomination.
{"commentId":1346596,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"jjerrypipe"}
- 4 votes
#2 - Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:37 PM EST{"commentId":1346630,"authorDomain":"frankubelikska"}
If McCain can pull himself together I think he'll scare Bloomberg away. If the Republicans give the nomination to anyone else (**huckabee**cough, cough) then I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of voters welcomed Bloomberg into the race, if nothing more than as an alternative to HRC.
{"commentId":1346630,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"frankubelikska"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1346658,"authorDomain":"aktylor"}
McCain will scare away voters, not Bloomberg.
No secret that I want this man to enter the presidential race, but I just don't want him to do so if he's a spoiler. It will be interesting to see what this "data" that the article says he's analyzing will lead him to do.
Next question: Who's the running mate?
{"commentId":1346658,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"aktylor"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1346675,"authorDomain":"surendra"}
Lots of speculation about Nunn and Hagel... Though I'm thinking he'll pick someone more interesting than that. Didn't Steve Forbes say that he would run with Gore??
{"commentId":1346675,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"surendra"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1346699,"authorDomain":"politi-c"}
I can't picture Gore taking the #2 spot, surendra... but it would be perfect for Obama if he loses the Dem nod to Hillary...
{"commentId":1346699,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"politi-c"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1347472,"authorDomain":"spotlightdiva"}
it would be perfect for Obama if he loses the Dem nod to Hillary...
Why does everyone seem to think Obama is "unloyal" in a sense to the Dems? Let's not forget that he was the keynote speaker at the 2004 convention. Part of his plan may be to unify the nation, but that by no means indicates he would consider switching parties. I personally find that highly unlikely.
{"commentId":1347472,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"spotlightdiva"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1347932,"authorDomain":"schwab"}
unifying the nation might take an independent or perhaps even a new party.
So would bloomberg pull more from likely republican voters or likely democrat voters?
I assumed democrats in my post above, but please correct me if you think I'm wrong.
{"commentId":1347932,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"schwab"}
{"commentId":1347286,"authorDomain":"paine"}
This is the best political news I've seen in a very long time. I love Bloomberg, and the worst thing about American politics is the hegemonic, not-mandated-by-the-Constitution two-party system.
{"commentId":1347286,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"paine"}
- 1 vote
#3 - Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:07 PM EST{"commentId":1347432,"authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}
I agree with this point. But at some point, we need to turn to a parliamentary system assuming that numerous parties emerge. Two are already possible. The Obama party, and the Bloomberg party.
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{"commentId":1348232,"authorDomain":"krishna109"}
This is the best political news I've seen in a very long time. I love Bloomberg, and the worst thing about American politics is the hegemonic, not-mandated-by-the-Constitution two-party system.
I think the mai thig he has going for him is that he is not a real politician.He is really more of a''manager''. He knows how to successfully run a large organization.
{"commentId":1348232,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"krishna109"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1348348,"authorDomain":"bluecollarbytes"}
A majority is never going to vote for some liberal billionaire from New York City. At best Bloomberg will provide an outlet for Paulists and/or other malcontents, at worst pave the way for another Clinton win. Bloomberg and arnold the governator are trying to sell folks a bill of goods: bipartisanship, which roughly means you all shut up and let us do the work of ruling over you in peace.
{"commentId":1348348,"threadId":"200484","contentId":"1215857","authorDomain":"bluecollarbytes"}
#4 - Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:07 AM EST{"canLink":false,"threadId":"200484","isPrivate":false}
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